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Post by Jake on Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:29 pm

OBAMA FTUW
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Post by Vicsp on Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:17 am

yeah
me and BK are right
we love ya Obama
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Post by Jake on Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:54 am

We are right OBAMA FTWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWw
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Post by Vicsp on Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:47 am

lol
BK i think we are spamming now but
he is doing a good job at getting on the TV
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Post by Armageddon on Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:51 pm

THAT OBAMER. IS THE WORST. PRESIDENT. WEVE EVER HAD.

HE HAS BANNED FLAVORED TOBACCO DIP!!!

YOU DEMOCRATES ARE FREAKIN IDIOTS FOR VOTIN FER HIM AND HIS COMMUNIST FOLLOWERS.

I WISH BUSH WAS STILL PRESIDENT, AND FURHTER MOAR *jumbled garbled mess, mouth too filled with yummy tobacco*

AND ALSO *takes swig from dip spit bottle* THE CONFEDERATE STATES WON. THE UNION JUST DOESNT WUNNA ADMIT IT.

CASE CLOWSED.
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Post by Sir Gamealot on Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:00 pm

hah.

I like how half of this topic BK trolling the virtually nonexistant Republican base of this forum. It also amuses me that Obama also has the most votes in the old "elect Mccain" topic.

Oh and btw..these random topic bumps shall be explained soon enough. xP

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Post by Armageddon on Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:42 pm

Obama is the reason the Great Depression happened. Oh, and he caused the Bubonic Plague.

How did he do this? By using his magical commie powers that he got from his best bud Lenin.

I have proof, proof 1. hes a democrat. 2. fox news said so. Cool im so smart.
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Post by Bananaman on Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:38 pm

He won!? No s***!?
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Post by Mimoz-Pie on Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:55 pm

Jerry43 wrote:Oh well.... Maybe Obama can be a good president..... -.-

first republican known to say that! Congrats! Very Happy

And the abortion part, it may be murder, but there is such thing as freedom of speech and the people who are in that situation are the people who will have the say when it comes down to it. Not you. ._.

Oh and i think gay people have rights tooooooooooooo! (im not gay though)

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Post by Acdog on Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:09 am

Has anyone noticed Obama's about to shove down a health care reform bill that 70% of America dosen't want down our throats? And that it's going to put us three MORE trillion dollars in bebt than we already are?

In all seriousness, things aren't looking good for America. Japan and China are starting to back off. They don't want our money. they're starting to realize that it's becoming worth nothing.

what are your guys' thoughts on this?
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Post by Sir Gamealot on Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:34 am

As you often say, ac- I would like to see your sources on "70%" of America opposing this bill. I don't believe only 30% of America is poverty-ridden and in need of decent health care. It seems like it would be the other way around.

For example, I recently saw a story on CBS. A woman who had died long ago from skin cancer had made an unknowing contribution to science when some of her skin cells were extracted without her permission. Those regenerating cells are now being used for reseearch purposes around the world. However, it is ironic that the immediate family of this woman is now struggling to pay for health care costs. As you should know, not every person in America has the perfect life. Not everyone can afford to keep shoveling out money that they don't have to insurance companies.

Besides, if some Americans don't like the reforms, they don't have to take part in them. The bill would simply offer a government health care OPTION to the public. It would actually make health care AFFORDABLE to the public.

President Obama is pushing these reforms because he knows that if he doesn't push them now, they will never be accomplished with our current governmental system.

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Post by UltimateGohan on Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:26 pm

You just got OWNED, b****! *Def Jam FFNY pose*

Anyway, I agree with SG. 70% is too much.

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Post by Mimoz-Pie on Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:51 pm

I totally agree with SG. Must of the people of today are not able to afford health care or any other means of health insurance. It will actually be an advance in America because then, it will open the door of people actually caring about some of the issues of today. If they see how well this reform is going to be to the public, the lives of the middle class and lower class will improve to point where there is no such thing as classes and will all have the wealth of the rich.

We also need to start manufacturing items here than over in Japan or South America. It is better to export then import. Ignorant fools.
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Post by Acdog on Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:01 pm

Sir Gamealot wrote:As you often say, ac- I would like to see your sources on "70%" of America opposing this bill. I don't believe only 30% of America is poverty-ridden and in need of decent health care. It seems like it would be the other way around.

For example, I recently saw a story on CBS. A woman who had died long ago from skin cancer had made an unknowing contribution to science when some of her skin cells were extracted without her permission. Those regenerating cells are now being used for reseearch purposes around the world. However, it is ironic that the immediate family of this woman is now struggling to pay for health care costs. As you should know, not every person in America has the perfect life. Not everyone can afford to keep shoveling out money that they don't have to insurance companies.

Besides, if some Americans don't like the reforms, they don't have to take part in them. The bill would simply offer a government health care OPTION to the public. It would actually make health care AFFORDABLE to the public.

President Obama is pushing these reforms because he knows that if he doesn't push them now, they will never be accomplished with our current governmental system.

Numerous polls on different websites, such as USA Today, Time, and CNN have asked whether or not America is happy with obama's health care reform bill. 70% responded no, they weren't. Guess what? They still aren't. The United States was founded on a bipartisan democracy, and not ONE republican is voting for this bill. Literally. Even democrats can't get enough votes to win by majority,(the way it's supposed to be.) So now, Nancy Polowsi along with the rest of the white house have made a loophole that we can't get around. Their going to pass the bill in seperate parts. But the scam is, if one part passes, it means the bill is in. It automatically is passed, because not just one part of the bill can be passed. This method has NEVER been used for a major issue that will effect the whole nation, and is usually only used on more trivial things, like how much money to tax for the Department of State to build roads. Obama even said last week "I don't care how it gets passed, as long as it does." Well, you don't seem to realize that we've been trying to pass this bill since SEPTEMBER, and the house hasn't wanted it. They didn't want it in September, they didn't want it in October, nor November, December, January, or Febuary. Big surprise. The majority of the United States dosen't want it now either. But Obama is going to shove this thing down our throats, whether we like it or not. It's TWO THOUSAND pages long. Not even congress knows all of what it entales.

But some of the things we DO know, are that:
-If passed, ALL Americans will HAVE to buy health insurance, and will be fined if they don't, even if they can't afford it.
-We will have to wait in line to get Emergency Assistance, like Ireland and most of Europe.
-Your doctor decides whether or not your sick/harmed enough to go to the hospital. If he sends you to a specialist, he gets less pay and penalized by the government. This means doctors will be less tempted to say you are hurt enough to go to the hospital. "Eh, I'll send an application, I should be able to get you in within six months." Those are the kinds of responses people with broken legs and Multiple Scyrosis will get. Guess what? After 6 months of no medical attention, (severely needed), their DEAD.
-This will be the first time in history that hospitals in America DON'T have to treat you in an emergency. You MUST have some sort of certifications from your doctor saying that you need Emergency Medical Treatment. Hospitals will be allowed to turn you away if they think you can walk it off. The less accepted, the more money the hospital makes. Just like Social Security.
-It will cost approximately $ 3 TRILLION dollars to make this happen. We're already in debt that much, and thats not even including the actual national dephicit.
-Our grandkids' kids' will be paying this off. Heres a little statistic for you. Starting at the year ZERO, if someone payed $1,000 A DAY, all the way up until the very date of today, it would equal LESS that ONE trillion dollars.


Besides those things, most people can't AFFORD to buy health insurance. Why? Because 1 out of 10 Americans are unemployed. That might not sound like that much, but it's the closest we've came since the Great Depression. 10% of America. Thats a lot of people. Mom and Pop buisnesses are suffering, aswell as the Trademarked world renound ones. Look at General Motors, the largest automobile industry in America, and the world, for that matter. It's going out of buisness. Pontiac is already done, forever. A Pontiac car will never be made again. Not to mention Toyota, who isn't looking so hot with their failing brake systems either. Remember all those jobs President Obama promised us during his campaign? One question. WHERE ARE THEY? The solution to economic problems for him is, if we are in debt, GO PRINT SOME $$$$$!!!!! Well, I guess he hasn't realized by now that when he printed up that 3 trillion back in January, it lowered the value of the American Dollar SEVERELY? As a matter of fact, every time he does that, the value of our currency gets smaller. The American Buck is becoming worth nothing to other countires. That's why Japan and China are slowly backing away from us. They know our goods and cash aren't worth as much to them as they used to be.They can see whats happening to us. Why can't we? Brush the wool out of your eyes. America's already on a downward slant, and Obama is only making it worse by FORCING a bill straight down the House's throat. Health care isn't America's main concern right now. Jobs are. Our current health care system works, and has worked, for 200 plus years. But our economy, our jobs, the future of our children, isn't. It's one thing to force something on a nation that dosen't want it, instead of fixing the problem at hand, but to do it incorrectly on top of it? And add even MORE to the GIGANTIC pit of debt the U.S.A. already finds itself in?

I leave you with an analogy: Fix the problem that is in your living room, and posing a threat to your home, before you go remodeling the kitchen, just to make it look nicer.


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Post by Sir Gamealot on Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:32 pm

Acdog wrote:The Untied was founded on a bipartisan democracy, and not ONE republican is voting for this bill. Literally. Even democrats can't get enough votes to win by majority,(the way it's supposed to be.) So now, Nancy Polowsi along with the rest of the white house have made a loophole that we can't get around.
If nothing else, at least I got you to admit that you're a Rebpublican.

Just to point something out- we were discussing health care, not unemployment. I'm not a radical advocate of health care, so I will admit you present some valid points. However, you only present the "worst case scenario" sides of the bill.

You never know if something works if you don't stop cowering in the shadows and try it.

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Post by Armageddon on Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:01 pm

At least he's trying. I bet if a republican was president they wouldn't even try. it'd be like bush for another 4 years. Keyboard Cat '12.
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Post by Acdog on Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:28 pm

Sir Gamealot wrote:
Acdog wrote:The Untied was founded on a bipartisan democracy, and not ONE republican is voting for this bill. Literally. Even democrats can't get enough votes to win by majority,(the way it's supposed to be.) So now, Nancy Polowsi along with the rest of the white house have made a loophole that we can't get around.
If nothing else, at least I got you to admit that you're a Rebpublican.

Just to point something out- we were discussing health care, not unemployment. I'm not a radical advocate of health care, so I will admit you present some valid points. However, you only present the "worst case scenario" sides of the bill.

You never know if something works if you don't stop cowering in the shadows and try it.

I wasn't saying I was republican. I was saying that it was an all party thing, not bipartisan. And by we, I meant America, both Republicans and Democrats, because they're even Democrats who don't agree with this bill. I'm a Democrat, but that dosen't mean I have to agree with what Obama says. Heyall Naw.

And yes, I know we were discussing health care, but unemployment is one of the key reasons people want Obama to take this health care bill and shove it. We need to fix our bigger problems first. Then we can go back and refurnish.

Also, I know those were some "worst case scenario" sides, but the thing is, their probable. To me, and a lot of other people, the cons outway the pros in this bill, and the problems that lie within it need to be adressed.

Finally, yes, it's good to try new things to see if they work. But if the majority of America dosen't want something that you want to try, it isn't right to force it on them.
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Post by Mimoz-Pie on Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:20 pm

I wasn't saying I was republican. I was saying that it was an all party thing, not bipartisan. And by we, I meant America, both Republicans and Democrats, because they're even Democrats who don't agree with this bill. I'm a Democrat, but that dosen't mean I have to agree with what Obama says. Heyall Naw.

You lie like a rug. A dirty dirty rug. You contradicted yourself two times in your reasons of this so called debate.

I thought the reasons of being in a party and supporting someone to be president or have a seat in the house or ANYTHING is because you agree with what they say. Am I right?

And also to point out, the health reform hasn't been going since September. It has been going on since FOREVER! Over 50 years! Obama has actually been the one ever since to actually push to pass it.

Do you know what this reform can do for people of the middle class and below? People do not have the money to pay for Upper Class health care and the prices are rising because of the greediness of the people running the company! We are all in this situation of today because of greediness and money. And for being in the same kind of field. Why hasn't there been an Independent as president? Maybe having the same Democrat and Republican switch off is bringing the same problems over and over and over again. Republicans do not want to agree with the Democrats even though the ideas of the party are outstanding and the Democrats do not want to go hard out at it and actually get tough and say NO! Obama has the power to not go by people of the thing and pass the law. Why can't he? Explain that.

I'm moving to Canada. Eff you America. Free health care and awesome accents.
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Post by Cookie'D on Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:31 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought that Obama is trying to change the system to be like here in Europe, which means the system will be like in Canada, free insurance, that is. Well, Acdog, at least every European has an insurance unlike Americans, where about 50 million out 309 million people can't get one. It might not seem a lot, but it is.

Once again, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not trying to play smarty-pants here, it's just what I understood by watching the news and having a conversation with my father.
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Post by Sir Gamealot on Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:20 am

Acdog wrote:
-It will cost approximately $ 3 TRILLION dollars to make this happen. We're already in debt that much, and thats not even including the actual national dephicit.
-Our grandkids' kids' will be paying this off. Heres a little statistic for you. Starting at the year ZERO, if someone payed $1,000 A DAY, all the way up until the very date of today, it would equal LESS that ONE trillion dollars.
Once again, where the hell did you get your "facts?" This morning on CBS, a MAJOR news network, a story stated that the bill will cost only $980 billion, not your over-exaggerated guesstimate. The story also stated that it would only take only 10 YEARS to pay off, not your little "beginning of time" theory. Furthermore, it was also stated that the bill will actually remove money from the deficit, not add to it. In fact, about $120 billion would be removed from our country's debt in the next 20 years solely because of the bill.

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Post by Mimoz-Pie on Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:52 pm

Ac, stop getting your information from Fox. -.-
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Post by Armageddon on Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:34 pm

Hey it passed, no more bickering, oh wait, this is america. THeres always bickering.
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Post by Brenstar on Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:14 pm

That was ages ago D:
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Post by Acdog on Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:21 pm

i DEFINATELY do not get my information from fox. tyvm.
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